#ZCBOARD MUST GO

Sadly in '04 Streak and co. sighted the ZC board then for racism. ICC investigated and found the board not at fault. Cry racism its has become like a scapegoat on all ZC issues. Nothing new to see here. Black/white both sides have used it to try a sway public opinion. I don't think the board is going anywhere any time soon. If the board continues messing up I would think the MD has to go with it. Whose ship is it any way, the MD, the Chairman, the Life President?

On a side note, how would a break away board work? What would it take for the ICC to recognize parallel structures?

Hasnain wont do it. He has been signing the terminantion letters. If he didnt agree he would have done that a long time ago. The fact that in December he even said it would be crazy if there were no changes if we didnt qualify makes it even worse. He is also a foreigner. A decision like that would bring serious heat.

I think its for the next election gents. We have to study that nomination process and make so much noise about it that they run a clean election. We have to beat them at their own game. Last time Manase and co were so relaxed and he was outgunned.

Asking for intervention from the President will get us suspended. Its not worth it. If the SRC doesnt do anything we are screwed.

The biggest lesson learnt here for me is the balancing act. I know Googly you dont agree with balancing issues. It shouldnt need to be done to be honest but thats just the unfortumate situation I think you find in ZC and CSA as well. If South Africa has an economic crisis because of their new policies their sports will crumble as well. Trust me its almost a miracle sport is even played in our country.

You go to any sports club or country in the world and you will find a similar situation. Boards put pressure on team selection in every sport. That happens absolutely everywhere. If you go against their choices then you make sure you bloody win. You cant go against a board "suggestion" then lose then cry foul when they are furious. Whether you were right or wrong they are going to crucify you for that. Deep down Streak knew his days were numbered after that game. He is just finding it hard to accept the 11 guys who played that day are the people who actually let him down. Its an unfortunate situation

CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:59 am

tawac wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:46 am

Sadly in '04 Streak and co. sighted the ZC board then for racism. ICC investigated and found the board not at fault.

ICC did not investigate ZC at any time about racism IIRC. Those investigations were much later and were about the finances. Streak and Co. did not accuse the board of racism, but asked them to address the grievances with respect to team selection criteria and demanded clarity. Streak was fired as captain for writing that letter and others followed him as they wanted to take a stand. There is a massive difference between asking for meritocracy in selection and calling someone racist. Taibu, in last year's interview with Dean du Plessis squarely agreed that Streak took the right step at that time but why he could not have followed him given his own situation at the time. I'm not sure how such stories of Streak and Co. accusing the board of racism float up.

Compare that to the direct statements made by the chairman and you would know where things stand.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/23885 ... acism.html

Streak and Co actually did accuse the board of racism and tried to get us expelled in 2004. That is a fact. The ICC had to have a hearing and they cleared them.

To me this is why I dont listen to what somebody like Coltart has to say. His methods usually bring more harm to the ordinary fan. Flower and Olonga. England not touring. Players walkout. He is always involved.

CrimsonAvenger wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:59 am

tawac wrote: ↑Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:46 am

Sadly in '04 Streak and co. sighted the ZC board then for racism. ICC investigated and found the board not at fault.

ICC did not investigate ZC at any time about racism IIRC. Those investigations were much later and were about the finances. Streak and Co. did not accuse the board of racism, but asked them to address the grievances with respect to team selection criteria and demanded clarity. Streak was fired as captain for writing that letter and others followed him as they wanted to take a stand. There is a massive difference between asking for meritocracy in selection and calling someone racist. Taibu, in last year's interview with Dean du Plessis squarely agreed that Streak took the right step at that time but why he could not have followed him given his own situation at the time. I'm not sure how such stories of Streak and Co. accusing the board of racism float up.

Compare that to the direct statements made by the chairman and you would know where things stand.

Lets get one thing straight, like I said both sides have cried RACISM at one time or another. For some reason we should get the pitch forks out because in this instance its the ZC chairman, like its a greater sin.

http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/ ... de-of-hurt

Timeline of a fallout

Seven months in 2004 that changed the course of Zimbabwean cricket

March 11 In the middle of a series, Ozias Bvute, the ZCU's director of integration, calls for the Zimbabwe ODI team to be re-selected with more players of colour included. His demands are not met; the meeting ends in stalemate.

March 24 Heath Streak, the captain, writes a letter to the ZCU's managing director, Vince Hogg, listing four key demands, including an end to unofficial quotas. Threatens to resign if they are not met.

March 30 An emergency meeting attended by a handful of players and ZCU representatives ends in acrimony.

April 2 Streak calls Hogg to reiterate his position. Hogg relays the conversation to the ZCU board. Twenty-year-old Tatenda Taibu is appointed captain.

April 8 Eleven contracted players - all white - threaten to resign if Streak is not reinstated as captain.

April 16 Thirteen white players go on strike. The ZCU names a 14-man squad for a one-day series against Sri Lanka. Uncapped 18-year-old Brendan Taylor is the only white member; only eight have international experience.

April 18 Zimbabwe's new squad trains for the first time at Harare Sports Club; two more white players join the "rebel" camp.

April 25 In the third ODI, in Harare, Zimbabwe are bowled out for 35 - the lowest score in ODI history. Sri Lanka chase the target in 9.2 overs.

May 5 The rebels write a letter to the ZCU, rejecting the board's offer of mediation and call for binding arbitration.

May 10 The ZCU fires the 15 rebel players.

May 17 Zimbabwe are beaten by massive margins in both Test matches by Sri Lanka: an innings, and over 200 runs.

July-August The rebels tour England for three weeks, under the banner of the "Red Lions", in a bid to keep playing and to raise money for two charities - the Cricketers' Trust and the Zimbabwe Pensioners' Trust.

September 28 An ICC hearing into allegations of racism by the ZCU begins in Harare. It is declared closed the next day after an impasse - the players ask for the proceedings to be held in camera; the board refuses. Both sides give written submissions.

October 17 The ICC panel releases its findings, indicating that it found no evidence of racism by the ZCU.

Lets see how the next week goes :W:

Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:10 pm

brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:19 pm

The ICC have behaved disgracefully throughout all of this. It's clear they have been looking for a reason to oust Zim. They didn't wait long at all to pull the trigger.

The ICC should have kicked ZC to the curb 10 years ago circa 2010. Despite a few false daws (2011, 2017) Zim cricket has been shockingly poor both in the boardroom and on the field.

As opposed to? SLC? BCB? The general consensus is BD should never have been a FM at the time.

Basically, ZIM rebooted in 2011. Any judgements can be made from 2021. In 2021, I just don't see BD winning a Test series in ZIM against:

Kamunhukamwe, Burl, Kaia, Musakanda(c), Kasuza, Murray(wk), Jongwe, Mashinge, Ngarava, Mumba, Muzarabani(he'll be back). Moor and Chari won't have declined much. And if a Mahmadullah is still around, so will Chakabva. ZIM won't give BD spinners any helpful pitches.

We can bet 10k USD now.

Troll level 1000. Obviously didn’t watch the World Cup Encore. Bangladesh are world class. Zimbabwe relies on their spinners as well eg their win against aus in zim was because they prepared a spinning wicket.

Zimco wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:38 am

Troll level 1000. Obviously didn’t watch the World Cup Encore. Bangladesh are world class. Zimbabwe relies on their spinners as well eg their win against aus in zim was because they prepared a spinning wicket.

Moot point. The WC in England had neutral pitches. Zimbabwe have never prepared spinning pitches against BD. They beat BD(and PAK) with seamers. In fact BD's best bowler was a seamer - I forget his name.

ZC will ensure all Tests are in HSC. Fast green pitches. Mustafizur will be in his prime, but he alone won't be able to counter ZIM's attack. Brendan Taylor is a good ODI batsman. Average Dutch and Irish got in top of him, not because he's graditionally a poor traveller, but because of age. He's 33. Tamim, Mushy, Sakib and Mahmudullah will be between 33-35 years of age. Ngarava, Mumba, Muzarabani aided by Mashinge and Jongwe will quite simply be too much in helpful pitches.

NB: Troll? Ok. I was very careful not to even select a spinner in my XI (Wellington, Mavuta), because the odd overs from Kaia, Burl and Musakanda will be enough to chance one or two wickets.

brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:01 am

To be fair, the odds of BD winning a Test series in Zim are about as low as the odds of BD playing a Test series in Zim.

😂 There's a Test Championship now. They'll fancy their chances at home, plus away to SL, AFG and ZIM. Every 0.10 point counts.

I think in two years time ZIM(and IRE & AFG) will be part of it.