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This has gotten so far off subject

Can't this be moved to a sub-forum
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:00 pm

So are we now going to justify Hitler's initial grievance that Germany was hard done by world powers after WWI? Surely, you can see the slippery slope?


Wow, talk about making 1+1 = 14. Your problem is that you are assuming that because one can understand someone, they agree with them and what the same thing. Doggy was merely saying that everything has a next progression. The reaction was basically what you are doing, jumping from A to F, and not understanding his point.


You can't prove an opinion. "Black players need more chances" cannot be proven because its merely an opinion. More chances than what?

Gay rights lead to pedophilia can be proven to be false because Gays are no more or less likely than straights to be pedophiles, nor are most pedophiles gay.


You can prove or disprove an opinion. You've just done that with the pedophilia thing. If not then we might as well do away with science.

Everything is an opinion and that opinion is not confirmed until proven true or false. If someone says "Black players need more chances" as an opinion, they have to prove it. Like I said in my last post they would do so by looking at the facts and figures.

Do you just read what you want to read?
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eugene wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:09 pm

This thread has convinced me that we should just have one catch-all thread for the entire forum.


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No question the ZCF has helped me by being a great leveller to me.

Here I am, whinging & moaning about the state of affairs in Australia, then I read Googly's & other Zimbabwean forumites' posts about the state of affairs in Zimbabwe.

I have a job, my kids have jobs & you can pretty much guarantee milk & bread will be available tomorrow. We whinge when cricinfo doesn't update scores quick enough or Foxtel's satellite can't broadcast the cricket.

I don't think I have a right to complain about much.

I certainly refer to this forum when I hear someone bellyaching about whatever & try to introduce them to someone else's reality. There's a few Australian tennis players & NRL players who should take a pilgrimage your way to realise how fortunate they are.

Also, being introduced to people like Hhm & Watermelon makes me feel happy to be me.

Finally, one of the great threads was the forum members meeting at a pub & having a drink. I'll cherish that one. My shout first!
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:51 pm

They also said that whites wouldn’t be attacked after apartheid finished.

In 1980, Mugabe told the white community they would be looked after.

Well, you know 50 years ago gay marriage was unimaginable. What’s the next 50 Going to bring?

Btw, guess how many paedophiles are gay as a percentage ?


Zim politics and Gay marriage don't really compare though do they??

I'm not sure on the stats of who is a pedo or who isn't, but as the catholic church has shown us nobody can be trusted
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hhm's theory is that an all-African Springbok team would be unstoppable because black people are always better at sport than whites. The white players are holding them back apparently.
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do swimming or weightlifting count as sports?
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:08 pm

My boss tried to convince me if we voted to allow gay marriage here in Oz it would be a gateway for people trying marry goats.

So far there hasn’t been any attempts to marry a goat here as far as I know


There's always those that take the arguement to a level that makes no sense. When we listen to these people, we fail to see the other issues.


eugene wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 am

hhm's theory is that an all-African Springbok team would be unstoppable because black people are always better at sport than whites. The white players are holding them back apparently.


That all African Bafana Bafana are truly ripping through the world of football. The damn whites of Rugby could only win the world cup, 3 times. Such idiots. They should take a book out of Bafana, then they might do better.
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eugene wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 am

hhm's theory is that an all-African Springbok team would be unstoppable because black people are always better at sport than whites. The white players are holding them back apparently.


Should we expect anything different from him?
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Different body shapes.

Black propel tend to have faster twitch fibres soon they are faster runners.

White people tend to be stockier and barrel chested and better upper body strength. Good for weightlifting and swimming.

It’s why black people dominate Olympic sprinting and Scandinavia dominates strongman contests.

So in a way the springboks do have the racial moneyball happening with the black wingers and whites props.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:54 pm

I'm not sure on the stats of who is a pedo or who isn't, but as the catholic church has shown us nobody can be trusted


Gay paedophiles infiltrating an organisation that they can get access to young boys.

People criticise the church (btw it’s not limited to the Catholic Church) but I am amazed how the gay community has not taken any of the hits here. Shows how protected they are with big business and the media.
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Right, attempting to get this back on track...

As I have already said, these are the ways in which ZCF has helped me so far:

1. Meeting a couple of like-minded Zimbabwe cricket fans and having a nostalgia about the good old times.

2. Improving my coherent English writing skills

Adding further...

3. An inspiration to write a book on a fan's view of Zimbabwe Cricket over the years. I did float the idea here, but it could not be materialized as the blow of not qualifying to the world cup really hurt very badly. The excitement just fizzled out at that point. Also got busy with work. But the great support and suggestions received at the time I floated the idea was so wonderful. May be we can make it happen some other time...

4. Getting to know the faces of so many cricket names I had only come across in score boards, thanks to the photo quiz thread we started. Figuring out how a Wayne James, a Neeten Chouhan, a Kingsley Went or a Freedom Takarusenga looked was great thrill! And getting to know about their families in some cases and what their kids are up to now etc. (like Traicos' daughters). Wonderful journey! Thanks to other primary contributors to that thread, foreignfield and zimfan1

5. There are more, will list them as i recollect them...
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:12 pm

My genuine question to you Kriterion,

Would you be this accepting if this stuff was happening to Bangladesh only instead?

Genuine Q.


Nice deflection, but to humor you, I'll bite.

Bangladesh has many far greater concerns than one single instance of potential child abuse. I will even go ahead and name some of them for you:

1) Climate change. As the sea levels rise gradually, much of Bangladesh will be underwater for much of the year, rendering life impossible. Other parts of Bangladesh will find human habitation greatly diminished. Bangladesh is is 1/6th the size of Texas, but has 6 times the population. Doing the math, this means big trouble.

2) Water. Bangladesh has an immensely strained potable water supply. Much of the water has dangerous levels of arsenic in it.

3) Liveablity. Dhaka, the capital city routinely ranks as amongst the worst or least livable cities one the planet. Even worse than Harare, to my knowledge.

4) Crime and violent crime.

5) Rohingya refugees. Bangladesh now houses more than 1 million Burmese Muslim refugees who fled ethnic cleansing and genocide at the hands of majority Buddhist population. For a poor country like Bangladesh this is an immense burden and a strain. This will pose all sorts of problems in the coming years. Additional refugees may flee in the coming years from Burma or India.

Notice how LGBTQ or transgender does not feature anywhere on this list. If two gay guys want to marry, how does that affect any straight person in Bangladesh? Whether they marry or not, they are still going to be f***ing, so whats the big deal?

Just for the record, I'm not pro-gay marriage. I'm just not anti...its no business of mine. The only conceivable way it might be my business is if it was a public health issue in any way.
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:21 pm

I'm all for equal rights and all that, but Zimdoggy has a point tbf


Then you are not for equal rights or all that. That would be akin to a German dude from the 1930s saying "I'm all for Jews, but that Hitler guy has a point".

Equal rights means everyone, including and especially minorities, get the same privileges as the majority. If someone argues that they "have no problem with gays/blacks/hispanics/Muslims but you have to agree that gays/blacks/hispanics/Muslims are the source of all of societies problems, then they don't believe in equal rights.

Would you tell your wife or girlfriend "I believe women are equal to men, but women working are the reason why so many kids are doing drugs?"
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He’s a poisonous fellow is what he is. He obviously didn’t have a hand in the Springboks’ sports management or they would have finished last. 😂

Still the public are unhappy. Let that sink in... they’re still unhappy and want more!! There are only 7 players of colour in that squad of 30 and that doesn’t represent the demographic, they want MORE representation. First they take the hand, then the arm, then finally the whole enchilada. Then when it’s completely f***ed they expect you to come back to fix it so they can f**k you twice.

Gents you’re supposed to milk the cow not cut the fillet out or it won’t survive 😂

I did the math and equal representation equates to about half a white guy, but fortunately Faf currently fits the bill.

So they hurl insults and threats when the whites leave for greener pastures overseas, but don’t want them playing here either! 😂 Now where have I seen that before?

They don’t want you to leave, they want you to leave, they want you to stay, but only to help for free, they don’t want you to stay. The noisiest and nastiest of them will get a job, and maybe one day will be able to control some money 😂

I saw a video on FB of a black lady frothing about this representation thing. She gave her game away by mentioning “Xhosa black boys” getting a bum deal by the treacherous Afrikaners. Of course that will be conveniently ignored by the other tribes, the tribalism and nepotism can wait a bit 😂 they haven’t finished the clean up operations yet.

Of course the black guys in that squad with white wives and girlfriends could stand up and tell them all to shut up and stop insulting their kith and kin (count for yourselves), but of course they’ll keep very silent 😂 You’d think the wives would ask “aren’t you going to say anything??” To which the likely response would be “unless you want to be wife no 2, shut up, we might get a farm!” 😂 😂

Here’s a 1000% correct prediction- Rassie Erasmus in his new role as Director of rugby will be put under enormous pressure to keep replacing whites with blacks. The longer he stays in that role the more you know he’s compromised himself. They’re a Rainbow nation for a few days only and it will be back to dismantling stuff next week. Encore’s friend, Malema, will have to hold off killing farmers for a few days, but he will be back at it in no time. He’s been publicly exposed for his direct hand in it, he’s a mass murderer ffs, and yet he’s still got a free rein. There’s a third party mass murder in progress and the world is silent and the good people in SA (both black and white) look the other way and thank Jesus that they’re not farmers.

I have no axe to grind, I’m just pointing out the hard facts. I personally care not what happens down there, it’s here that I worry about and keep hoping for better days. They’re following our path exactly, but it’s on steroids.
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Completely agree with sentiment Googly, and the same principle applies with all this current LGBT alphabet s**t going on atm. It’s why I didn’t vote for gay marriage and all that, because it’s a Trojan horse to other things.

Gay marriage,

Then visa rorting,

Then gay adoption

Then gay propaganda

Then Trans operations in teens

Trans operations in kids (current court case atm in Texas with a 6 yr old who thinks he’s a b***h and the mothers all supportive and the dads ‘f**k no’)

And it keeps ongoing and creeping in and will ultimately encroach on paedophilia is my prediction. It’s all started.

I do have one nitpick in your maths googly,

If it’s representation, it would be 2 and a half white guys in the squad wouldn’t it?

7% /3 and a bit?
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:29 am

Completely agree with sentiment Googly, and the same principle applies with all this current LGBT alphabet s**t going on atm. It’s why I didn’t vote for gay marriage and all that, because it’s a Trojan horse to other things.

Gay marriage,

Then visa rorting,

Then gay adoption

Then gay propaganda

Then Trans operations in teens

Trans operations in kids (current court case atm in Texas with a 6 yr old who thinks he’s a b***h and the mothers all supportive and the dads ‘f**k no’)

And it keeps ongoing and creeping in and will ultimately encroach on paedophilia is my prediction. It’s all started.

I do have one nitpick in your maths googly,

If it’s representation, it would be 2 and a half white guys in the squad wouldn’t it?

7% /3 and a bit?


That is the most alarmist bullshit I've ever heard.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:27 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:29 am

Completely agree with sentiment Googly, and the same principle applies with all this current LGBT alphabet s**t going on atm. It’s why I didn’t vote for gay marriage and all that, because it’s a Trojan horse to other things.

Gay marriage,

Then visa rorting,

Then gay adoption

Then gay propaganda

Then Trans operations in teens

Trans operations in kids (current court case atm in Texas with a 6 yr old who thinks he’s a b***h and the mothers all supportive and the dads ‘f**k no’)

And it keeps ongoing and creeping in and will ultimately encroach on paedophilia is my prediction. It’s all started.

I do have one nitpick in your maths googly,

If it’s representation, it would be 2 and a half white guys in the squad wouldn’t it?

7% /3 and a bit?


That is the most alarmist bullshit I've ever heard.


‘Alarmist’

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bu ... dy-dispute

‘Alarmist Bullshit’

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.in ... html%3famp

My genuine question to you Kriterion,

Would you be this accepting if this stuff was happening to Bangladesh only instead?

Genuine Q.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:27 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:29 am

Completely agree with sentiment Googly, and the same principle applies with all this current LGBT alphabet s**t going on atm. It’s why I didn’t vote for gay marriage and all that, because it’s a Trojan horse to other things.

Gay marriage,

Then visa rorting,

Then gay adoption

Then gay propaganda

Then Trans operations in teens

Trans operations in kids (current court case atm in Texas with a 6 yr old who thinks he’s a b***h and the mothers all supportive and the dads ‘f**k no’)

And it keeps ongoing and creeping in and will ultimately encroach on paedophilia is my prediction. It’s all started.

I do have one nitpick in your maths googly,

If it’s representation, it would be 2 and a half white guys in the squad wouldn’t it?

7% /3 and a bit?


That is the most alarmist bullshit I've ever heard.


I'm all for equal rights and all that, but Zimdoggy has a point tbf

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