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Zimbabwe Tour Of Pakistan 2020 [ 3 Odis & 3 T20s ] : Pre Series Discussion

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https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/114 ... ning-squad

Training squad:

Faraz Akram, Ryan Burl, Regis Chakabva, Brian Chari, Tendai Chatara, Chamu Chibhabha, Elton Chigumbura, Tendai Chisoro, Craig Ervine, Kyle Jarvis, Luke Jongwe, Tinashe Kamunhukamwe, Wesley Madhevere, Timycen Maruma, Wellington Masakadza, Brandon Mavuta, Peter Moor, Carl Mumba, Richmond Mutumbami, Richard Ngarava, Sikandar Raza, Milton Shumba, Brendan Taylor, Donald Tiripano, Sean Williams.

Venue :

3T20Is : Rawalpindi

3 ODIs [ ICC Super League ] : Multan
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A lot of the selection is economic. The older guys need to be in the first class comp but to keep them there they need the international 🥕 dangled. We can't afford to pay them properly to play for the franchises. I've got no problem with maruma playing for the 🐐. But then they want to throw him some livelihood and that means an occasional game for Zim. They aren't expecting him to do well. I don't think it is just cold nepotism, either. It compares with some forms of unionism.
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It was a T20 so it makes sense. To be honest Elton makes my T20 team because he can win you a game. We will never go anywhere in that format until we realize that you need at least 5 guys who can clear the ropes naturally. A lot of our best players in other formats can’t.

PJ Elton BT and Raza are the only guys in our current squad who I know 100% if they connect it’s going all the way for 6 against international standard bowlers. The rest have to think about where to hit it and that’s where trouble comes in this format. They end up overthinking because they don’t back themselves to clear the ropes.

Kamunhukamwe and Maruma are 2 other guys who can do it domestically.
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Even with the bowlers there are guys more suited for T20s . You might find that Mpofu will be a better pick than Chatara because Chatara sprays it everywhere in his final spell every single time
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Jemisi wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:45 pm

A lot of the selection is economic. The older guys need to be in the first class comp but to keep them there they need the international 🥕 dangled. We can't afford to pay them properly to play for the franchises. I've got no problem with maruma playing for the 🐐. But then they want to throw him some livelihood and that means an occasional game for Zim. They aren't expecting him to do well. I don't think it is just cold nepotism, either. It compares with some forms of unionism.


What a way to select an international test

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I don't think T20 is all about big hitters anymore. If that were the case then Brisbane Heat would be unstoppable.

I think it started off that way, but has developed a lot. You need big hitters up top, but you really need a balance. The other issue with our big hitters is that its more swing than anything. Their head wobbles and their body is all sorts.

Look at guys who hit hard and big regularly and their head is steady and they are hitting balls that are there to be hit, not just swinging. You can turn good balls in to runs if you play them properly too. I've seen sides build big T20 totals by hitting not many sixes. You want to keep the run rate moving along, rotating the strike and keeping the bowlers guessing.
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:51 am

I don't think T20 is all about big hitters anymore. If that were the case then Brisbane Heat would be unstoppable.

I think it started off that way, but has developed a lot. You need big hitters up top, but you really need a balance. The other issue with our big hitters is that its more swing than anything. Their head wobbles and their body is all sorts.

Look at guys who hit hard and big regularly and their head is steady and they are hitting balls that are there to be hit, not just swinging. You can turn good balls in to runs if you play them properly too. I've seen sides build big T20 totals by hitting not many sixes. You want to keep the run rate moving along, rotating the strike and keeping the bowlers guessing.


It can work because Wes Raza and Williams are the 3 guys who I know can find gaps too. I’m just afraid for the guys who can’t hit big and also struggle to find gaps early on in their innings. We have a lot of those guys.
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It is really hard to get excited anymore. We are clearly in steady decline, in another 5-10 years we will be where Kenya is now. The decline in the game from 20 years ago is astronomical, I can't imagine where things will be in 20 years time! Maruma will probably be coaching the national team by that stage.
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Second warm up game completed

Milton Shumba & Maruma scoring 45 & 44* whilst KJ & Chisoro took two wickets each

Ervine seeing Zim B home with 65*
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jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:55 am

Second warm up game completed

Milton Shumba & Maruma scoring 45 & 44* whilst KJ & Chisoro took two wickets each

Ervine seeing Zim B home with 65*


Any scorecards? What happened in the 1st game?
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zimbos_05 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:51 am

I don't think T20 is all about big hitters anymore. If that were the case then Brisbane Heat would be unstoppable.

I think it started off that way, but has developed a lot. You need big hitters up top, but you really need a balance. The other issue with our big hitters is that its more swing than anything. Their head wobbles and their body is all sorts.

Look at guys who hit hard and big regularly and their head is steady and they are hitting balls that are there to be hit, not just swinging. You can turn good balls in to runs if you play them properly too. I've seen sides build big T20 totals by hitting not many sixes. You want to keep the run rate moving along, rotating the strike and keeping the bowlers guessing.


If you're a BBL fan you'd love one of my favourites Jono wells, minimal dots, good placement and can hit the ball hard when needed
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 4:20 am

The games are 1 month away. I’m sure Ervine Maruma and Elton will travel and we will see for ourselves what happens in the T20s


The point is not what will happen, its on what is happening to warrant selection. You select a player based on their form. If they fail, then you assess that and have a case for them being under scrutiny for selection. You don't pick a player because they had a good knock once 5 years ago.
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https://www.crichq.com/matches/854569/2nd_innings

Game three played, poor old BT can’t buy a run to save himself! His poor body language was clear time see last time out in Bangladesh and it seems to be carrying on in his scores here.

PJ top scorer with 41 off 26, 3 sixes & 2 fours shows good hitting but also shows he’s still struggling to hit ones and twos. 26 off 3 then 15 off the other 23 balls.

Kamunhukamwe 47 top scored on the other side, for me he should be opening in the T20s and probably the ODIs
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Burl with 7 off 15..that’s dreadful
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sloandog wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:03 pm

Burl with 7 off 15..that’s dreadful


But he won Man of the Match

It's just zimbabwean standards
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Is muzarbani returned to zimbabwe?? I saw his name in the match versus takashinga and easterns. Also he picked a wicket in his first over. Is this not an error in the scorecard the return of Muzarabani is a big boost for zimbabwe cricket
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Marshmallow wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:07 am

Is muzarbani returned to zimbabwe?? I saw his name in the match versus takashinga and easterns. Also he picked a wicket in his first over. Is this not an error in the scorecard the return of Muzarabani is a big boost for zimbabwe cricket


https://www.crichq.com/matches/855356/1st_innings
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Yeup Blessing is certainly back!!!!

With the following list of bowlers who have some height and decent pace (Zim standards) hopefully we see a move away from the home decks being slow and low to more harder and faster

Jarvis

Chatara

Mumba

Blessing

Ngarava

Tshuma

Evans

I feel preparing hard and fast decks at home especially for domestic games will have a huge benefit on the development of both the fast bowlers and batsman in Zim.
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jaybro wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:14 pm

Yeup Blessing is certainly back!!!!


Is he back just for domestic cricket or is he back to play internationals for ZIM?
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:39 am

Is he back just for domestic cricket or is he back to play internationals for ZIM?


He’s going to Pakistan

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