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Zimbabwe Tour Of Pakistan 2020 [ 3 Odis & 3 T20s ] : Pre Series Discussion

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Opening post

https://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/114 ... ning-squad

Training squad:

Faraz Akram, Ryan Burl, Regis Chakabva, Brian Chari, Tendai Chatara, Chamu Chibhabha, Elton Chigumbura, Tendai Chisoro, Craig Ervine, Kyle Jarvis, Luke Jongwe, Tinashe Kamunhukamwe, Wesley Madhevere, Timycen Maruma, Wellington Masakadza, Brandon Mavuta, Peter Moor, Carl Mumba, Richmond Mutumbami, Richard Ngarava, Sikandar Raza, Milton Shumba, Brendan Taylor, Donald Tiripano, Sean Williams.

Venue :

3T20Is : Rawalpindi

3 ODIs [ ICC Super League ] : Multan
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No Murray, no Musakanda...seriously what the f**k is going on here?
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And how am I still seeing Chigumbura’s name still in there, almost 17 years after his bloody debut!
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Blessing Muzarabani will also be available for this tour according to Meluhli Sibanda

Tari obviously still has to to some grovelling after he chose club Cricket in Oz over a domestic season, we know how ZC like their players to do the hard yards before returning. Chisoro seems to have finally done enough hard yards as he's back in the reckoning.

What happened to Maruma's rape case?? Has he beaten it or still awaiting trial??

The Winners

Luke Jongwe; back in national selection considerations for the first time since 2016

Peter Moor; harshly dropped from the Test side, surprisingly picked for a limited overs squad, normally how things go for ZIm players

Richard Ngarava; Hard to see how he has jumped ahead of Mpofu & Tshuma? Possibly the Harare influence over the Bulawayo boys coming into effect.

Tendai Chisoro; after serving his penance he has rightly taken his place back in the squad considering he is the best spinner in the land

The Losers

Ainsley Ndlovu; after a couple of matches in each format it looks like the selectors have seen enough of Ndlovu, he's been overtaken by both Chisoro & Wellington.

Neville Madziva; can't help but feel bad for Madziva after a decent all-round showing for the Rhinos he has been left out for Elton Chigumbura who doesn't even bowl

Brian Mudzinganyama; hard hitting opening batsman who looks a player for the future, seemingly left out for a couple of yesterdays heros

Charlton Thsuma; showed some signs of potential in Bangladesh, seems to have lost his place to Ngarava

Ryan Murray; still not selection for Murray due to him not playing in the Logan Cup, hard to swallow when Regis & Mutumbami are the only other options

New Blood

Wes Madhevere; obviously already played for the national side, can't wait to watch him bat again for Zim

Milton Shumba; one of only two uncapped players in the squad Shumba brings lots of potential to the side in all three areas of the game

Faraz Akram; surprised he's in the squad but he has been a decent performer for the Eagles

Blessing Muzarabani; it will be very interesting to see how Blessing goes after his County stint, loads of potential based purely off his physical stature

Brendon Mavuta; another who has played before, but it's good to see him back in consideration after a stint in the wilderness

Hami's mates

Chamu; the most uninspiring captain Zimbabwe has ever had, this includes Terry Duffin.

Elton; Hami's best mate so he gets an automatic spot in the squad, I just hope he isn't given another free holiday on ZC's pay roll

Tymcen Maruma; despite the alleged criminal case against him he's been selected, also no runs in his international career to date

Wellington; I'm surprised Shingi hasn't been given a spot as well, nepotism at it's best

Regis; honestly how many times can a guy prove he's not good enough? His limited overs career is an embarrassment
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Just bored of seeing the same old faces.

I’d love to see Liam Roche. I know, wishful thinking, but I just think he can offer so much with both bat and ball in the subcontinent.

I find it embarrassing that Tari is being ignored. In terms of talent he’s one of the best we have.

Anybody know if Lake is ever going to return? He’d slip nicely into a Zimbabwe middle order
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Maruma is there. What ever happened to his rape case?
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jaybro wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:32 am

Hami's mates

Chamu; the most uninspiring captain Zimbabwe has ever had, this includes Terry Duffin.

Elton; Hami's best mate so he gets an automatic spot in the squad, I just hope he isn't given another free holiday on ZC's pay roll

Tymcen Maruma; despite the alleged criminal case against him he's been selected, also no runs in his international career to date

Wellington; I'm surprised Shingi hasn't been given a spot as well, nepotism at it's best

Regis; honestly how many times can a guy prove he's not good enough? His limited overs career is an embarrassment


And herein lies the problem. We talk of regenerating the side, but that doesn't happen because any regeneration will come at the expense of the players who should still be in the side whilst these guys continue. Any other nation would have cut all these guys years ago, let alone make one of them the captain.
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The only reason I can see them picking Elton is because he did really well in Pakistan last time but that was 5 years ago. Without much playing time this year they might think experience will count. These matches have meaning, even sneaking in 1 win might make a difference. Still they shouldn’t be picked in my opinion.

I’m surprised Murray is missing, maybe he had school commitments but I’m sure he is in their plans.
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What are the conditions in Pakistan like?

Chamu (automatic pick since Hami made him captain)

BT(wk)

Ervine

Williams

Burl

Wes

Raza

Shumba

Jarvis

Blessing

Chatara
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 7:17 am

What are the conditions in Pakistan like?

Chamu (automatic pick since Hami made him captain)

BT(wk)

Ervine

Williams

Burl

Wes

Raza

Shumba

Jarvis

Blessing

Chatara


Good for batting IIRC? Definitely was good for batting in 2015 when Zim toured.

Don’t mind that side; lots of bowling options, Kamunhukamwe & Chisoro would also have to be close to selection
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Excited to see some cricket back. Also the ICC Super League matches which give ODIs context now. Every game will matter for Zimbabwe.

Good to see some forum favorites back like Jongwe and Chisoro.

I don’t think Chigumbura will make the final squad, but then again you never know. Good to see everyone is fit.
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Chibhabha (c)

Raza

Taylor

Williams

Madhevere

Ervine

Moor / Mutumbami (wk)

Burl

Jarvis

Mumba

Chatara

This eleven might give us a chance, but we would need everyone to play well at the same time. ;)
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T20s:

Kamunhukamwe

Taylor

Williams

Raza

Madhevere

Ervine

Chibhabha (c)

Moor / Mutumbami (wk)

Chisoro

Jarvis

Mumba
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T20

R Burl

W Madhevere

B Taylor

S Raza

S Williams

P Moor

L Jongwe

D Tiripano

B Mavuta

K Jarvis

T Chatara

Odis

R Burl

W Madhevere

C Ervine

B Taylor

S Raza

S Williams

P Moor

B Mavuta

L Jongwe

K Jarvis

T Chatara
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Nothing about this squad surprised me. The usual candidates get a shot. Hard to get excited about Regis and Elton these days.
My All-time Zimbabwe XI
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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Eddie Byrom has just scored his first county ton.

Doesn’t half p**s me off when I think that Welch and Byrom are now in county cricket (and succeeding) yet we still select Maruma.
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Regis in limited overs cricket is lol.

What's he ever done in that format? I can't think of one great innings. Not one.

Ryan must come into the limited Overs team.

If Regis fails in the next test series he needs to be replaced in test too.

If he does well, he can bat on.

But these scores that follow his career like clockwork;

17,1

3,64*

That's not good enough
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What is this about 32 players making the trip? That’s literally every decent player we have 😂 if that’s the case then I honestly don’t mind Elton getting a go in the T20s . That’s a specialist format.
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sloandog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:51 pm

Eddie Byrom has just scored his first county ton.

Doesn’t half p**s me off when I think that Welch and Byrom are now in county cricket (and succeeding) yet we still select Maruma.


And he said he wasn't tempted by Zim
The Third Innings
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For now. At the moment the world’s all sunshine and rainbows for Byrom. I hope it continues but if he was to ever fall flat from county cricket he has Zimbabwe Cricket to fall back on.

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