My Zimbabwe Playing XI vs PAK (3rd ODI):
1 Burl
2 Chigumbura / Chibhabha (Should be dropped)
3 Ervine
4 Taylor (WK)
5 Williams
6 Madhevere
7 Raza
8 Chisoro
9 Chatara
10 Muzarabani
11 Ngarava
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[ ICC World Cup Odi Super League ] Match 3 : Zimbabwe V/s Pakistan, Rawalpindi
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Marshmallow wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:15 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:10 pm
I like this league system where everyone plays each other. Will spread the talent a bit when players don't seek green pastures and other players will actually try and qualify for smaller nations.
As for Chisoro.
I don't get why everyone loves him so much here.
Despite today's effort, we have three spinners that pretty much offer the same as him already in our lineup.
We are better off with a pinch hitter or an extra seamer.
Wes/Raza/Sean are more than enough for our finger spinner needs.
If chisoro was Nathan Lyon fair enough but he's the other three without the batting skills.
If they need a front line spinner Mavuta is a good choice bcz he is an leggie and also a good hitter
Agreed, Mavuta is worth investing time in for those times where you need a specialist (especially Tests).
Williams and Raza (IMO) are the best spinners in Zim, but we need to think a few years ahead now - and Chisoro doesn't solve that problem.
I'd like to see a specialist off-spinner brought through the ranks though, leggies can get tonked... so it'd be nice to have a 20yo Utseya-like 0/45 off 10 type bowler we could use in the one-dayers from time to time.
Googly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:20 pm
It's going to be interesting to see the T20 side. Is Chamu captain of that as well?
I think they'll open with Shumba and Burl if Chamu doesn't play. If he does then Shumba will probably replace Chisoro.
I dunno, hard to guess what they'll do.
Yeah Chibhabha is captain for that too.
For mine... Burl for Chari, Shumba for Chisoro. Don't know much about this Faraz Akram bloke, but may as well give him a game.
Tiripano was good, but he's the first to make way.
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Chari is a pretty decent player, he works hard, but he doesn't have the game to open in ODI's. Block block hit is not the recipe. Those hard hands of his makes red ball tough as well.
I've actually forgotten what Chamu is like as a batsman, he's never in long enough to take a look. I'm not even trying to be funny. He looks ok and then suddenly he's on his way back to the hut. He doesn't even get any lucky breaks to get going.
They're looking for two openers when perhaps they should only be looking for one. Ervine is generally in by the 4th over anyway and he's definitely got the game. Maybe he should open then you're only looking for one guy.
That one commentator got it right about Raza, his batting has definitely deteriorated. Maybe can't get out of T20 mode, but that was a flattering 40 something.
Experienced players like him have their way of doing things and you're not trying to reinvent them, but that trigger of his makes life more difficult than it needs to be. Its a way of getting momentum into a front foot shot, but you're going to be late on quick deliveries and you're going to step down the wrong line a few times and I'm not even sure what it does for your back foot stuff, but it gets unnecessarily complicated. It's almost a floating front foot like Cook, but not quite. £50/hr and I'll fix his set up 😂
I've actually forgotten what Chamu is like as a batsman, he's never in long enough to take a look. I'm not even trying to be funny. He looks ok and then suddenly he's on his way back to the hut. He doesn't even get any lucky breaks to get going.
They're looking for two openers when perhaps they should only be looking for one. Ervine is generally in by the 4th over anyway and he's definitely got the game. Maybe he should open then you're only looking for one guy.
That one commentator got it right about Raza, his batting has definitely deteriorated. Maybe can't get out of T20 mode, but that was a flattering 40 something.
Experienced players like him have their way of doing things and you're not trying to reinvent them, but that trigger of his makes life more difficult than it needs to be. Its a way of getting momentum into a front foot shot, but you're going to be late on quick deliveries and you're going to step down the wrong line a few times and I'm not even sure what it does for your back foot stuff, but it gets unnecessarily complicated. It's almost a floating front foot like Cook, but not quite. £50/hr and I'll fix his set up 😂
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What a win !! I almost lost my voice shouting .. beautiful just brilliant ..only sad thing is chamu might get an extended run now ..imagine burl shumba at the top with Kyle and chatara with muzarbani ..that's a decent side ..I so wish we had cremer still
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Can't there be a thread on ODI Super league? Will also help in tracking all the teams performances.
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jamthala wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:58 pm
Great win watched in youtube . Hondo was over the moon today
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jamthala wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 5:58 pm
Great win watched in youtube . Hondo was over the moon today
Blast from the past here. As in 9 years?
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Am I correct in thinking that todays result will not go down as a ODI victory in the history books and instead will be recorded as a tied match? The Super Over is only for the purpose of allocating the 10 points. Hoping to be correct here!
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That was incredible well done Zimbabwe.
Thirst for more matches now. Unfortunately won't play much now until February where we have Afghanistan for two test matches.
Now if only we could rearrange the Australia India and Ireland matches that would be great 👌👌👌
Thirst for more matches now. Unfortunately won't play much now until February where we have Afghanistan for two test matches.
Now if only we could rearrange the Australia India and Ireland matches that would be great 👌👌👌
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Seems as if I missed all the fun and drama this afternoon. Just watched the highlights: how bloody typical and brilliant all the same :D
Blessing and Ngarava must be the tallest opening duo in Zim history. They could go a long way if they stay away from injury these two.
And of course especially chuffed for the Don and his contribution with the ball.
Blessing and Ngarava must be the tallest opening duo in Zim history. They could go a long way if they stay away from injury these two.
And of course especially chuffed for the Don and his contribution with the ball.
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zimfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:42 pm
Am I correct in thinking that todays result will not go down as a ODI victory in the history books and instead will be recorded as a tied match? The Super Over is only for the purpose of allocating the 10 points. Hoping to be correct here!
ICC saying this is a win. Can't share the screesshot.
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Nice win.
Nothing extra to be said that hasn't already. Certain players need to go, and certain players need to come in. Whether that will happen is a completely different story or whether ZC will continue to mess things up is only to be seen.
Nothing extra to be said that hasn't already. Certain players need to go, and certain players need to come in. Whether that will happen is a completely different story or whether ZC will continue to mess things up is only to be seen.
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brmtaylor.com admin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:27 pm
Marshmallow wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:15 pm
ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:10 pm
I like this league system where everyone plays each other. Will spread the talent a bit when players don't seek green pastures and other players will actually try and qualify for smaller nations.
As for Chisoro.
I don't get why everyone loves him so much here.
Despite today's effort, we have three spinners that pretty much offer the same as him already in our lineup.
We are better off with a pinch hitter or an extra seamer.
Wes/Raza/Sean are more than enough for our finger spinner needs.
If chisoro was Nathan Lyon fair enough but he's the other three without the batting skills.
If they need a front line spinner Mavuta is a good choice bcz he is an leggie and also a good hitter
Agreed, Mavuta is worth investing time in for those times where you need a specialist (especially Tests).
Williams and Raza (IMO) are the best spinners in Zim, but we need to think a few years ahead now - and Chisoro doesn't solve that problem.
I'd like to see a specialist off-spinner brought through the ranks though, leggies can get tonked... so it'd be nice to have a 20yo Utseya-like 0/45 off 10 type bowler we could use in the one-dayers from time to time.
Googly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:20 pm
It's going to be interesting to see the T20 side. Is Chamu captain of that as well?
I think they'll open with Shumba and Burl if Chamu doesn't play. If he does then Shumba will probably replace Chisoro.
I dunno, hard to guess what they'll do.
Yeah Chibhabha is captain for that too.
For mine... Burl for Chari, Shumba for Chisoro. Don't know much about this Faraz Akram bloke, but may as well give him a game.
Tiripano was good, but he's the first to make way.
Faraz Akram is a promising all-rounder, very nice guy and I think he has potential.
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Detective RDS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:54 pm
My Zimbabwe Playing XI vs PAK (3rd ODI):
1 Burl
2 Chigumbura / Chibhabha (Should be dropped)
3 Ervine
4 Taylor (WK)
5 Williams
6 Madhevere
7 Raza
8 Chisoro
9 Chatara
10 Muzarabani
11 Ngarava
Why are they not playing Chatara
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Wow a pretty massive win considering the match started with ZIM 22-3. Probably the biggest batting come back by ZIM.
Also secured 10 points which is essential considering Ireland took 10 vs England.
Also secured 10 points which is essential considering Ireland took 10 vs England.
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Googly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:20 pm
Good review. Blessing had a great day, but in-between the wickets and the good deliveries he bowled some really poor balls.
Even Bumrah or Starc bowls bad balls between wickets. Everytime Chari drove Shaheen for four - its a bad ball, I mean if you're getting hit for 4 by a batsmen like Chari it has to be a bad ball, right?
Blessing bowled probably the best spell (judging from the stats and match situatio) by a ZIM seamer in ODIs since the rebels left in 2004.
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It was a roller coaster ride watching the match yesterday. Decided to not follow it at all when it went down to 22/3. Then kept peeking into the scorecard as Williams was still there and then ended up watching the last 5 overs where he got that masterful hundred and forged a nice partnership with Raza. But felt that 278 was not enough given how easily we could score our runs and decided not to follow the chase.
Then saw that we snared two wickets early and soon it became 3! Then they got into partnerships and though Tiripano gave hope a couple of times in between, it looked like another story of what could have been as usual for Zim. So stopped following again. Then I saw Riaz got his 50 and sursed the management and was about to go for a walk when I saw Blessing breaking through. Watched the last 5 overs again! that 49th over by Blessing was so special, after getting hit for 6 in the second ball. But Ngarava serving up half vollies to tailenders was so predictable. And the Chisoro mess!
So, after the tied result, I was certain that we did not have it in us to win a super over and did not watch it, only to come back later to the forums and realize that we have aced it, thanks again to Muzarabani!
Good result overall, but we should have won outright defending 13 in the last over. Possibly Tiripano should have bowled that over instead of Ngarava.
Then saw that we snared two wickets early and soon it became 3! Then they got into partnerships and though Tiripano gave hope a couple of times in between, it looked like another story of what could have been as usual for Zim. So stopped following again. Then I saw Riaz got his 50 and sursed the management and was about to go for a walk when I saw Blessing breaking through. Watched the last 5 overs again! that 49th over by Blessing was so special, after getting hit for 6 in the second ball. But Ngarava serving up half vollies to tailenders was so predictable. And the Chisoro mess!
So, after the tied result, I was certain that we did not have it in us to win a super over and did not watch it, only to come back later to the forums and realize that we have aced it, thanks again to Muzarabani!
Good result overall, but we should have won outright defending 13 in the last over. Possibly Tiripano should have bowled that over instead of Ngarava.
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ZIM actually have a really good recent record in Subcontinent in ODIs. 3-2 win vs SL, 1-2 vs a pretty strong PAK side. Certainly doing better away than at home oddly enough.
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