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Its do or die now gents. Now lets get one thing clear. Suspension or expulsion will not lead to this fantasy of a new board being formed and thing suddenly getting better with all of our favourite coaches and players coming back. This is a very serious issue. We will NEVER ever recover if we are suspended. Those are the facts. So what we need to do now for everybodys sake is stop all the nonsense going on. Sit down and figure this out.
If you truly love this sport now is the time to stop social media campaigns constantly harrassing anybody to do with the game. Whether its the players, Streak or the board. We are now at the very end of the line unless something is done urgently. If we want to survive this we all need to come together and actually figure out what the hell is going on and find a SOLUTION. We can argue about other things another time. This could be it folks.
Looking back at it turning on India was the biggest mistake we have ever made. England and Australia will sacrifice us anyday.
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So the ICC can finally see the loan scam for what it is and want it stopped. That is a good thing.
I agree that full suspension would be bad. However difficult it is to make progress from where things are a complete exclusion would not be easily rebuilt be any means. The Rugby analogy doesn't work in my opinion.
Your calls for a workable solution are admirable - but there does have to be some concessions and shifts by the thieves, surely.
I agree that full suspension would be bad. However difficult it is to make progress from where things are a complete exclusion would not be easily rebuilt be any means. The Rugby analogy doesn't work in my opinion.
Your calls for a workable solution are admirable - but there does have to be some concessions and shifts by the thieves, surely.
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True the thieves have to go. Its a tough decision because if they do figure out how to cut this loan down it will be a big win for them. I guess it comes down to what we are willing to lose in order to get rid of them. Would you burn your house down to kill a snake?
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Well everyone would be better off if the loan gets cut by 6 million.
And...it depends on the size and lethality of the snake!
And...it depends on the size and lethality of the snake!
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Well this is now very simple.
Is Bvute and his buddies at the bank more interested in the survival of ZC, or money coming into their pockets..?
This is D day
Is Bvute and his buddies at the bank more interested in the survival of ZC, or money coming into their pockets..?
This is D day
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This could be a very good thing and the ICC have been very shrewd with this
delay the loan until 2023 from zamco/metbank whatever its called or risk suspension.
if the bank doesnt budge there will be very little money trickling in anyway if we are reduced to a kenya role in world cricket
well done ICC
delay the loan until 2023 from zamco/metbank whatever its called or risk suspension.
if the bank doesnt budge there will be very little money trickling in anyway if we are reduced to a kenya role in world cricket
well done ICC
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jimbo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:39 am
This could be a very good thing and the ICC have been very shrewd with this
delay the loan until 2023 from zamco/metbank whatever its called or risk suspension.
if the bank doesnt budge there will be very little money trickling in anyway if we are reduced to a kenya role in world cricket
well done ICC
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Why don’t they take a close look at the multi million dollar stadia refurbishments done just recently to see what they’re dealing with? They know and I guarantee have a fairly accurate dossier on the misappropriations over the years and yet they continue to allow it. They’re extending these guys an ultimatum and a lifeline at the same time that further entrenches them.
They could just as easily say form a new board and these are the people we want because we’re done with your thieving corrupt mismanagement, but they won’t. Why?
They could just as easily say form a new board and these are the people we want because we’re done with your thieving corrupt mismanagement, but they won’t. Why?
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I disagree Taps, now is not the time to all pull together for the greater good. NOW is the opportunity for the players union to approach ICC with every single bit of dirt they’ve got on these guys and say here’s our plan for OUR future because we have zero faith in these b*****ds that have destroyed our cricket, please listen to us and give us a chance to set things straight.
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Nobody in their right minds can believe for one second that the same people with their wings clipped can do a better job than they’re doing now. If you’ve been a corrupt incompetent thief for 15 years you ain’t changing.
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I think if the loan is delayed it is cause for celebration. The ICC should do quarterly audits once and if this venture goes through to see if indeed the monies are not being missappropriated
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I don't think this is the end.
The end already came a few months ago when UAE won.
There's no players coming through, the players we do have have all but left (Cremer? Raza?) and are in their early-to-mid 30s anyway.
We might still play the odd series for some reason (enjoy the tri-series, because I doubt we'll ever see Australia again), but I'd expect most of our matches will come against Ireland and Afghanistan now, and in a few years time a tier below that (Scotland, Netherlands, etc) and once this crop of players have all retired and Musakanda and co. are the established players we'll enjoy regular bilaterals against Kenya and Uganda.
It's all over for Zimbabwe cricket, there's nothing the ICC can do now.
The end already came a few months ago when UAE won.
There's no players coming through, the players we do have have all but left (Cremer? Raza?) and are in their early-to-mid 30s anyway.
We might still play the odd series for some reason (enjoy the tri-series, because I doubt we'll ever see Australia again), but I'd expect most of our matches will come against Ireland and Afghanistan now, and in a few years time a tier below that (Scotland, Netherlands, etc) and once this crop of players have all retired and Musakanda and co. are the established players we'll enjoy regular bilaterals against Kenya and Uganda.
It's all over for Zimbabwe cricket, there's nothing the ICC can do now.
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I think there is pressure on the ICC to get more matches for teams like Scotland who have impressed lately. ICC themselves are not a very good organization by any means, at the moment they don't have any benefit by keeping Zimbabwe as a full member or in the ODI league. Suspending ZIM will allow them to move Scotland into the ODI league, ZIM is the only country that can make way to be honest.
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Once again I’m blaming the players. They’ve had ample opportunity to stop the Board dead in its tracks. It appears that there’s one last chance and it’s the best one yet. I’m begging you guys to listen to the likes of BT and Co and join them in a unified group that means business. We’re at the end of the road here.
We cannot survive without proper people in the right places. Pleeeeeze
We cannot survive without proper people in the right places. Pleeeeeze
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The consequences of losing that UAE game are a lot bigger than people realize. It was a do or die situation. Now people can see. If we had qualified no way we could get suspended.
I guess you guys are right. The thing is the players have to act. Now is not the time to sit on the fence. Either they decide to get rid of the board and approach the ICC or they play their hearts out next month. Every game will be scruitinized now. Its their lives that are on the line after all and its in their hands
I guess you guys are right. The thing is the players have to act. Now is not the time to sit on the fence. Either they decide to get rid of the board and approach the ICC or they play their hearts out next month. Every game will be scruitinized now. Its their lives that are on the line after all and its in their hands
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In my opinion the only way Zimbabwe cricket can survive now is if Zimbabwe turn things around by their performances so that the world can take notice. Tours from bigger teams like India, Aus, Eng, RSA will bring in some money for ZC rather than simply relying on the ICC funding. ICC will also get under pressure to increase the WC participation to 12 or 14 teans in 2023.
That game against UAE was so important, in an ideal world Zimbabwe should have crushed them, instead they ended up losing. They haven't for once made the main groups in WT20, while teams like Netherlands, Afghanistan have... I'm sorry to say but this is why Zimbabwe have simply gone unnoticed for so long now that no one cares wheather they are playing cricket or not.
The series win over Sri Lanka last year was one magnificient performance, and that is what they need more often.
That game against UAE was so important, in an ideal world Zimbabwe should have crushed them, instead they ended up losing. They haven't for once made the main groups in WT20, while teams like Netherlands, Afghanistan have... I'm sorry to say but this is why Zimbabwe have simply gone unnoticed for so long now that no one cares wheather they are playing cricket or not.
The series win over Sri Lanka last year was one magnificient performance, and that is what they need more often.
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This all seems farfetched to me. Banning ZIM for Test status/full membership: plausible. But replacing them with Scotland? That seems a bit OTT. I wouldn't be against it necessarily, but there hasnt been any indication of this at cricinfo or cricbuzz.
I honestly dont think the players can do much by "standing up" to the board. You forget the ZC are also fighting for their livelihoods, an amount at least 10x greater than the players...why would you expect ZC admins to fold? The players can all ply their trade elsewhere...ZC offficials cannot. They will be more resolute. Only the ICC, by means of a suspension can effect real change. Besides, boycotting training will just mean the boys will be rusty. This bunch failed to qualify against UAE, with plenty of match practice...what will happen with no matches against Australia or Pakistan?
I honestly dont think the players can do much by "standing up" to the board. You forget the ZC are also fighting for their livelihoods, an amount at least 10x greater than the players...why would you expect ZC admins to fold? The players can all ply their trade elsewhere...ZC offficials cannot. They will be more resolute. Only the ICC, by means of a suspension can effect real change. Besides, boycotting training will just mean the boys will be rusty. This bunch failed to qualify against UAE, with plenty of match practice...what will happen with no matches against Australia or Pakistan?
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So what are we hoping for? Driving out the current thieves but seeing all cricket suspended? Cutting the current thieves a break so that cricket can continue in Zimbabwe? Is there a third option?
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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ShareCan someone explain to me why the suspension of ZC would mean no more cricket being played? Nepal's board was suspended and they carried on playing didn't they?
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The best case scenario is ZC is banned and a new board is formed. However if this was going to happen presumably the ICC would have followed through by now.
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Neil Johnson, Brendan Taylor, Murray Goodwin, Andy Flower (w), David Houghton, Sean Williams, Heath Streak (c), Andy Blignaut, Paul Strang, Eddo Brandes, Blessing Muzarabani
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